a thread about hatred

its 4:30 am and obviously im bored so heres 5 questions about hatred

1. ur most hated TF series

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie

heres mines

1. never saw RiD or energon so i gotta ride with armada
2. not sure... the snobby constructacon
3. wreck-gar & wheelie... no wait, its HOT ROD
4. dance scene on junk planet
5. that humans are in it

[BadMagicGirl]

I don't really have much hate in me, but I'll give it a go:


1. ur most hated TF series
RID or Armada. or failing that those awful redux G1 episodes with the added CGI effects.

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
Straxxus probably, if he counts. I don't like Bludgeon much but hate is prolly too strong a word for him.

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)
Prowl. Boooooorrrrring!

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)
Wheelie's moments? The song and dance with the Junkions?

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie
The fact that Skywarp & Thundercracker aren't in it. That sucks.

Originally Posted by BadMagicGirl

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie
The fact that Skywarp & Thundercracker aren't in it. That sucks.

amen sister... if ur gonna have one plane then have all 3... and it would sure as hell solve the prob of the missing decepticon wouldnt it

[BadMagicGirl]

You betcha!

Starscream, mighty Decepticon air-commander.... with no troops to command?

I think the potential wow-factor of having all three seekers in the movie (imagine them flying in formation, transforming and landing in unison before proceeding to attack) would have been awesome.

*sad sigh*

Originally Posted by BadMagicGirl

You betcha!

Starscream, mighty Decepticon air-commander.... with no troops to command?

I think the potential wow-factor of having all three seekers in the movie (imagine them flying in formation, transforming and landing in unison before proceeding to attack) would have been awesome.

*sad sigh*

flying in formation alongside a millitary chopper and a ?(flyin megs), transforming and landing in unison.
gotta work out the flyin meggytank issue

[Covenant]

While I'm more about facts that make it seem like hating, as I'm not about the hate, I'll give it a go with what I dislike highly...

1. ur most hated TF series

R.i.D.

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

Decepticon: Stronghold (I think that's his name). Dumbest/Worst. Pretender Shell. Ever.

Predacon: Really and truly I loved them all that made it to the show, and I don't know much about the toy ones. Not enough to comment anyway.

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

Autobot: Rodimus Prime

Maximal: Likewise with the Predacon remark.

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

Soooooooooo many to choose from. But off the top of my head? That dumb dance scene on Junkion.

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie

Lack of Arcee and reasons behind the cut.

[pristine_matrix]

1. ur most hated TF series

The "G2" rehash of Generation One. Very irritating with that stupid Cybertron cube thing.

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

Generation One Scorponok irritates me alot. Dont know why.

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

Wheelie. Obviously. And Blurr. He's the Olivia Newton John of Transformers!

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

Magnus being put back together with relative ease after Galvatron had him destroyed. What a pointless sequence.

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie

The "Boy and His Car" thing. And the fact that Arcee won't be in it. I mean, she ain't my favourite character, but adding a fembot would've been nice for diversity.

[Wave Crusher X]

1. ur most hated TF series
beast machines

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
i dont really hate any of them really but if i must pick one id say insane galvatron. it was just anoying that he could never lead a decent battle without turning on his own side.

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)
um does wheelie? if so wheelie!

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)
when wheel shows up and never stops ryming.

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie
the fact that we will probably never have the same relationship between soundwave and his minions again.

[Optimal_Optimus_Primal]

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

1. ur most hated TF series

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie

1.G1

2.G1 Starscream

3.Wheelie

4.Megatron Trasnforming...

5.It's Lossely based on G1.

[pristine_matrix]

Originally Posted by Optimal_Optimus_Primal

1.G1

2.G1 Starscream

3.Wheelie

4.Megatron Trasnforming...

5.It's Lossely based on G1.

Getting a vibe here. May be way off base but...I'm guessing you're not a huge fan of the show that started it all?

[Autobot Gal]

1. ur most hated TF series
Well what little I've seen of Armada didn't impress me, but I'm thinking about giving it another chance

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
hmm, this is a hard one, none really come to mind

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)
Gotta fo with a classic here....Wheelie

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)
Yep, the abiguoisly gay Junkion dance

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie[/quote]
Arcee's been cut for "story reasons"....yeah, right

[Optimal_Optimus_Primal]

Originally Posted by pristine_matrix

Getting a vibe here. May be way off base but...I'm guessing you're not a huge fan of the show that started it all?

Nope I'm not a fan of the Generation 1 of the Transformer Series.

[Torvus]

1. ur most hated TF series
Gotta be Beast Machines. Not the fact that it was the worst one, but it was like the Orient expressing crashing into a pile of moose poop. Such a great lineup and franchise, done in by a, imo, terrible , and somewhat confusing storyline. Transformers not able to transform, what a great idea.

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
Superlink Snowcat, or Superlink Sprung. I mean, honestly. LAYLIHOOOO!


3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)
Anybody from Masterforce.


4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)
The introduction of Danial.


5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie[/quote]
That there's aren't many known facts about the movie.

[Wave Crusher X]

what is it you dont like about g1?

[Covenant]

Originally Posted by Torvus

Transformers not able to transform, what a great idea.

But.....they did transform............or did you channel ActionMasters there for a moment?

[Wave Crusher X]

Originally Posted by Torvus

1. ur most hated TF series
Gotta be Beast Machines. Not the fact that it was the worst one, but it was like the Orient expressing crashing into a pile of moose poop. Such a great lineup and franchise, done in by a, imo, terrible , and somewhat confusing storyline. Transformers not able to transform, what a great idea.

i got a new sig.

[Autobot Gal]

Originally Posted by Wave Crusher X

what is it you dont like about g1?

Actually there's a lot to hate about G1. Crappy animation, silly storylines (Carnage in C minor anyone?), I'll admit that my love for it stems from looking at two things; the underlying themes of war and sacrafice, and plain ole nostalgia

[Wave Crusher X]

well as compared to other 80's show i think it was very well done.

[pristine_matrix]

Originally Posted by Torvus

Gotta be Beast Machines. Not the fact that it was the worst one, but it was like the Orient expressing crashing into a pile of moose poop. Such a great lineup and franchise, done in by a, imo, terrible , and somewhat confusing storyline. Transformers not able to transform, what a great idea..

I'm pretty sure they could.

Originally Posted by Torvus

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
Superlink Snowcat, or Superlink Sprung. I mean, honestly. LAYLIHOOOO!.

Sprung was an Autobot.

Originally Posted by Optimal_Optimus_Primal

Nope I'm not a fan of the Generation 1 of the Transformer Series.

Fair enough. How come you don't like it?

[Optimal_Optimus_Primal]

Originally Posted by pristine_matrix

How come you don't like it?

Inconsistant Animation(Size Shifting etc.),bad Story Lines,Corny Lines,Chessy parts(The Dancing Scene in the Movie... ) and that basically wraps it up.

[pristine_matrix]

Fair enough.

Beast Wars is awesome though idn't it?

[Optimal_Optimus_Primal]

Originally Posted by pristine_matrix

Fair enough.

Beast Wars is awesome though idn't it?

Yes it is...

[Wave Crusher X]

Originally Posted by Optimal_Optimus_Primal

Inconsistant Animation(Size Shifting etc.),bad Story Lines,Corny Lines,Chessy parts(The Dancing Scene in the Movie... ) and that basically wraps it up.

so was everything else in the 80's. but i guess you had to have lived and watched then to understand. hence the nastalga. boy now i feel old.

[Torvus]

Ok, clarification, yes Beast machines could 'transform' in a manner of speaking. They had to focus their Chi mental state, then under their breath, whisper "I am Transformed" and then, Idunno, pray or something, and then they would mutate into these horrifically deformed bodies.

To me that's not transforming, thats metamorphosis. Rattrap couldnt transform for half the first season. Garbage. If that's a transformer, then butterflies are alt modes of worms.

[Wave Crusher X]

as far as im conserned it should have been called the mighty morphing beast machines. dame why couldnt megatron have one too. the good guys distroyed there own planet. techo organic grass yea thats was such a good idea.

[Covenant]

Originally Posted by Torvus

If that's a transformer, then butterflies are alt modes of worms.

Funny thing is the form of a butterfly is the permanent alternative form of a specialized genus of worm, the caterpillar.

Hey, I know Beast Machines isn't the particular herb that is a flavorful one to all, but the Maximals in there did transform.

transform
A verb
1 transform, transmute, metamorphose

change in outward structure or looks; "He transformed into a monster"; "The salesman metamorphosed into an ugly beetle"
Category Tree:
change
╚transform, transmute, metamorphose
╚become; turn
╚aurify

2 transform

increase or decrease (an alternating current or voltage)
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚transform

3 transform

change (a bacterial cell) into a genetically distinct cell by the introduction of DNA from another cell of the same or closely related species
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚transform

4 transform

convert (one form of energy) to another; "transform energy to light"
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚transform

5 transform, transmute, transubstantiate

change or alter in form, appearance, or nature; "This experience transformed her completely"; "She transformed the clay into a beautiful sculpture"; "transubstantiate one element into another"
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚transform, transmute, transubstantiate
╚work; work_on; process
╚destalinize; destalinise
╚stalinize; stalinise
╚sorcerize; sorcerise
╚transubstantiate

6 translate, transform

change from one form or medium into another; "Braque translated collage into oil"
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚translate, transform
╚diagonalize; diagonalise
╚metricize; metricise

7 transform

subject to a mathematical transformation
Category Tree:
change; alter; modify
╚transform


Given the new semi-cyborg perfection that were the reformatted Maximals, in their blend of organic and machine dubbed techno-organic, and the more spiritual/Spark oriented storyline, something incredible and highly distinct had to set them apart from the transforming (in the sense of the word we're more familiar with) Vehicons.

As such a new form of transforming was applied. Not a mere physical change of the body by reconfiguration of parts. More a change that began in the mind to affect from within the Spark, and altered the form outward. Psychosomatic to the extreme power.

To each their own, and I dig it.

[pristine_matrix]

There you go, gettin' all technical and realistic.

What've I told you about this?

[Torvus]

Fair enough Cov... I dont have a huge problem with their transmutations anyway. It was more because Beast Wars was SO well done imo, and then it was as if they turned off the 'good thing' switch, and buried it. Just a big let down, especially since it's supposed to be the same continuity.

Differences in Armada and Energon I think can be excused because while they are connected, they're 2 different series. Beast Wars and Beast Machines in my mind, are the same series, just different chapters.
I dont really know why I think that though... Too many similar characters I guess? And BM picks up right where BW left off.

[Covenant]

Originally Posted by Torvus

Fair enough Cov... I dont have a huge problem with their transmutations anyway. It was more because Beast Wars was SO well done imo, and then it was as if they turned off the 'good thing' switch, and buried it. Just a big let down, especially since it's supposed to be the same continuity.

Totally can empathize with that line of thinking. In the first episode that's exactly how I felt. But as the show went on and I watched my fellow TF fans grow to dislike the show even more, I found myself getting into the story, the flow, the difference. It wasn't what I expected as a follow up, was something entirely different than Beast Wars, and I guess while that was a big issue for most on the matter, ultimately it's why I'm cool with the show.

But I'm wierd like that.

[Wave Crusher X]

thats the broughed definition true. but to me transforming should be a realistic changing of moving parts. what beast machines did was use a rays of light to hide the missing pieces and you dont see anything move around only pieces getting sucked into the body and new ones coming out all at ones. thats not transforming thats morphing as far as im conserned.

the transforming was the least of this shows problems though. there were so many really horible things down to the well established characters. they hacked away at what they once were and tryed to give them different all personalities then they had in the last show. not to mention the really crummy story. we must make cybertron techno organic becuase a liquid wall at the center of cybertron said so.

rihnox should have taken over.

[Covenant]

My novel will be done in a month or so pending catastrophe (which is entirely plausible mind you).

I will quickly be seeking a publisher.

If I can't get published I'll be eventually making it available for the masses for free online somewhere.

Either way, I think you'll like what I've done. Love? Maybe not. Like? Likely. The story takes place vorns after Beast Machines.

[Azrael]

Originally Posted by Wave Crusher X

thats the broughed definition true. but to me transforming should be a realistic changing of moving parts. what beast machines did was use a rays of light to hide the missing pieces and you dont see anything move around only pieces getting sucked into the body and new ones coming out all at ones. thats not transforming thats morphing as far as im conserned.

the transforming was the least of this shows problems though. there were so many really horible things down to the well established characters. they hacked away at what they once were and tryed to give them different all personalities then they had in the last show. not to mention the really crummy story. we must make cybertron techno organic becuase a liquid wall at the center of cybertron said so.

rihnox should have taken over.

Wavey, I have been wondering, do you not bother to spell correctly, not care if it is spelled right, or do it on purpose? Not that it bothers me, just curious.

[RD_Blade]

1. ur most hated TF series
never seen armada/energon... so I gotta say RID
2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon
Waspinator
3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)
c'mon now....helloooo? Wheelie
4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)
everything on Quintessa...including the introduction of Wheelie
5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie[/quote]
I have no actual facts... that's what I hate.

[Covenant]

Originally Posted by RD_Blade

I have no actual facts... that's what I hate.

That is a flippin' brilliant answer. That's what that is.

[pittstop]

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

its 4:30 am and obviously im bored so heres 5 questions about hatred

1. ur most hated TF series

CYBERTRON - BECAUSE OF THOSE PESKY KIDS

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

SKYBITE

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

WHEELIE

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

WHEN WHEELIE TURNS UP

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie

ARCEE'S NOT IN IT

[Torvus]

Originally Posted by Wave Crusher X

not to mention the really crummy story. we must make cybertron techno organic becuase a liquid wall at the center of cybertron said so.

SPOILERRR:

You wont like the end of Cybertron then when Cybertron is rejuvinated and becomes an organic planet

END OF SPOILERRR

ok lets turn this around...

1. fav series (if its G1 then gimme fav 2)

2. fav good guy (if its optimus then gimme ur fav 2)

3. fav bad guy

4. fav moment in movie

5. fav fact about new movie (dont say cuz its based on G1, thats a duh)

[RD_Blade]

I guess you missed the 'Thread about love'...

dont try me cuz i will start one... but people might get it twisted with a name like that

[Wave Crusher X]

Originally Posted by Torvus

SPOILERRR:

You wont like the end of Cybertron then when Cybertron is rejuvinated and becomes an organic planet

END OF SPOILERRR

if thats true then that will s@ck big monkeys.

[RD_Blade]

Originally Posted by aTRUfan

dont try me cuz i will start one... but people might get it twisted with a name like that

There already is one... It was made by Pristine Matrix to mirror this one.

THAT BASTARD!!!!!

ILL GET U FOR THIS MATRIX!!! ILL GET U IF ITS THE LAST THING I DO!!!!

hmm, let me go check it out

[Amayirot Akago]

1. Haven't seen any shows so far that I hate, though the little bit of Headmasters that I've seen so far was disappointing, but still good in its own right.
2. I'm not much of a "hate characters"person...
3. Well, prolly Wheelie, though I don't find him as annoying as most people.
4. Many minor things that aren't worth noting, other than Unicron being destroyed so easily with the Matrix.
5. That it'll most likely not live up to everyone's expectations.

[Maidel]

1. ur most hated TF series

Dont hate any of them

2. ur most hated decepticon/predicon

Reflector

3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

Daniel, kicker.... oh sorry - I would say wheelie - but ever since I saw the 'wheelimus prime' drawing that someone did - I now like him. Therefore I have to say... JAZZ

4. ur most hated moment in the movie (besides primes death, duhh)

Why would anyone hate one of the best bits??? Anyhow - I cant hate any of that film

5. ur most hated known fact about the new movie
Arcee was cut

[Autobot Gal]

[quote=Maidel3. ur most hated autobot/maximal (humans dont count)

Daniel, kicker.... oh sorry - I would say wheelie - but ever since I saw the 'wheelimus prime' drawing that someone did - I now like him. Therefore I have to say... JAZZ[/QUOTE]

BMG is going to cut out you heart with a spoon!

[Covenant]

We should put that on pay-per-view.

[Autobot Gal]

Originally Posted by Covenant

We should put that on pay-per-view.

TFlive Thunderdome: Two posters enter, one poster leaves.

[Covenant]

Two posters enter, one poster leave! Two posters enter, one poster leave! Two posters enter, one poster leave!

[Autobot Gal]

I don't know why but the second one didn't work for me